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Post by carraigs on Jun 7, 2015 7:39:34 GMT
late to this but. spoke to henrik a great deal during and after jack. yes there is an online persona. but the persona is entirely derived from and reflective of his personality. at the start of the night there was a lot of robotic 'true friends' banter but as things wound down you could really hear the sincerity in his voice when he said shit in passing like "aw thanks guys you're true friends." Tongue in cheek yes. But absolutely not satire in a cynical sense. henrik is an incredibly nice guy and i think doubting that because he looks older than we expect is a bit cynical in itself.
i can definitely see where people are coming from especially in the context of a scene that flourishes in esotericism and double meaning, but henrik is a rare example of playing it straight.
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Post by carraigs on Jun 11, 2015 11:19:53 GMT
henrik the artist – iglooghost – slugabed – so so in luv
3rd july
birthdays
be there
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Post by sunnyta on Jun 25, 2015 19:59:32 GMT
this annoys me i hate how identify politics has seeped its way into everything. can't you just like artists without making it about what's between their legs or what arbitrary color their skin is? why do you even care? i don't. i judge people by their actions, by their words, by their art. i dont give two shits what their identity is as its not really relevant Identity matters because people are institutionally disadvantaged and discriminated against. Identity isn't something you can ignore. When your identity fits with the norms of society of course it's easy to say identity doesn't matter because you're able to just see yourself as the norm. Never at this point have I tried to discredit what anyone is saying. How can you even say that the color of someones skin is arbitrary with all of the shit going on even just in the US in the past few years such as the Baltimore riots, shooting of Michael Brown etc. You're statement insinuating that people are just worrying about "what's between the legs" of people like ponibbi or really anyone is also really out of line. There is so much more that comes with gender identity than genitals. I care because I've been harassed physically and emotionally for who I am as a person (nothing that I've simply chosen to be). I don't want people to ' graciously' ignore my identity because "they see everyone as equals" when in today's world everyone is NOT equal and it's a huge problem. Seeing representation of minorities is important for minorities. Identity is COMPLETELY relevant because in my opinion the experiences you have as a person contribute to everything you do and how you see the world, how you create art etc. Also never have I just shallowly judged simply on identity, identity factors in to everything especially in the actions, words, and art of an artist and it's something definitely open for discussion on a forum. This discussion how ever is getting very personal and actually political and not relevant to this forum it seems. So, I'm pretty done discussing this matter. excuse me - who are you to deny my life experiences? do you know me? do you know what colour my skin is, who i am sexually attracted to, my gender identity, or what i've been through? no? this is the crux of identity politics. it becomes about who is more oppressed and the fixation on it causes a self-fulfilling prophecy where no matter how many strides the world takes towards equality, it's all instantly undone by those who would rather obsess over the exceptions. the goal of perfect equality is to treat people by what they do and who they are rather than their skin colour, gender, or sexuality. i'm not denying that racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia exist, because they obviously do. but the more you focus on it, the more negativity you breed, and it comes to define your entire worldview. suddenly, you ONLY see skin colour and sexuality, and let it affect how you interact with people. they're no longer regular people, but victims. eternal victims. it's disempowering and disgusting, in my opinion, because all it perpetuates is the idea that, no, we are not all equal, and we never will be. not letting superficial aspects of someone affect your judgment is the first step to true equality. putting aside any discrimination, in a post-racial world where no discrimination exists, is that not the ultimate goal? that someone's minority status and victim status are artifacts of the past, rather than eternal signifiers of "inferiority"? because if so, why not start now? for some reason, people think that we'd be denying bigotry. that's bullpoop, because you're not suddenly blind to the racist actions of other people just because you personally choose to not see race, for instance. that guy who just shot up a black church is still a disgusting racist and i am not taking away the importance of that discussion. i speak for myself, and myself alone. what it ultimately comes down to appears to be a bunch of white people who talk down to minorities, trans people, gay people, etc, thinking they're progressive for treating them based on these things when it can be seen as condescending and inhumane. i heavily, heavily disagree with your worldview, and it's partially what's causing me to turn away from this place. it's becoming more and more political the more people it attracts, which is inevitable, but it's not the place for me i suppose |
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Post by conor on Jun 26, 2015 5:11:16 GMT
I come from an art background, and unless the artist actively chose to present their sexuality in their paintings, you can find similar works of art from all walks of life. Does it matter that Basquiat was black? Yes, in the context of his production of art and the themes he chose to address, it matters because that is what he chose to comment on. Does Andy Warhol's fluid sexuality matter? Only a little, honestly because his work was meant for the masses, and oftentimes avoided controversial topics in lieu of presenting topics and ideas that were universal. We need to look at the art created by those who make it, and compare it to their contemporaries before we decide to make this entire genre into a gender/racial politics discussion. It will never go anywhere.
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Post by lovergirlsprecinct on Jun 26, 2015 12:40:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 20:59:30 GMT
Identity matters because people are institutionally disadvantaged and discriminated against. Identity isn't something you can ignore. When your identity fits with the norms of society of course it's easy to say identity doesn't matter because you're able to just see yourself as the norm. Never at this point have I tried to discredit what anyone is saying. How can you even say that the color of someones skin is arbitrary with all of the shit going on even just in the US in the past few years such as the Baltimore riots, shooting of Michael Brown etc. You're statement insinuating that people are just worrying about "what's between the legs" of people like ponibbi or really anyone is also really out of line. There is so much more that comes with gender identity than genitals. I care because I've been harassed physically and emotionally for who I am as a person (nothing that I've simply chosen to be). I don't want people to ' graciously' ignore my identity because "they see everyone as equals" when in today's world everyone is NOT equal and it's a huge problem. Seeing representation of minorities is important for minorities. Identity is COMPLETELY relevant because in my opinion the experiences you have as a person contribute to everything you do and how you see the world, how you create art etc. Also never have I just shallowly judged simply on identity, identity factors in to everything especially in the actions, words, and art of an artist and it's something definitely open for discussion on a forum. This discussion how ever is getting very personal and actually political and not relevant to this forum it seems. So, I'm pretty done discussing this matter. excuse me - who are you to deny my life experiences? do you know me? do you know what colour my skin is, who i am sexually attracted to, my gender identity, or what i've been through? no? this is the crux of identity politics. it becomes about who is more oppressed and the fixation on it causes a self-fulfilling prophecy where no matter how many strides the world takes towards equality, it's all instantly undone by those who would rather obsess over the exceptions. the goal of perfect equality is to treat people by what they do and who they are rather than their skin colour, gender, or sexuality. i'm not denying that racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia exist, because they obviously do. but the more you focus on it, the more negativity you breed, and it comes to define your entire worldview. suddenly, you ONLY see skin colour and sexuality, and let it affect how you interact with people. they're no longer regular people, but victims. eternal victims. it's disempowering and disgusting, in my opinion, because all it perpetuates is the idea that, no, we are not all equal, and we never will be. not letting superficial aspects of someone affect your judgment is the first step to true equality. putting aside any discrimination, in a post-racial world where no discrimination exists, is that not the ultimate goal? that someone's minority status and victim status are artifacts of the past, rather than eternal signifiers of "inferiority"? because if so, why not start now? for some reason, people think that we'd be denying bigotry. that's bullpoop, because you're not suddenly blind to the racist actions of other people just because you personally choose to not see race, for instance. that guy who just shot up a black church is still a disgusting racist and i am not taking away the importance of that discussion. i speak for myself, and myself alone. what it ultimately comes down to appears to be a bunch of white people who talk down to minorities, trans people, gay people, etc, thinking they're progressive for treating them based on these things when it can be seen as condescending and inhumane. i heavily, heavily disagree with your worldview, and it's partially what's causing me to turn away from this place. it's becoming more and more political the more people it attracts, which is inevitable, but it's not the place for me i suppose lol my worldview is driving you away from here I haven't even posted on this forum for an entire month sorry dude. I'm not gonna argue with you because I don't think you're getting what I'm saying because the way your response is worded I feel like you think I'm just attacking you. Whatever though, I don't know why you decided to bring this up a month later. |
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Post by arlo on Jul 14, 2015 1:04:04 GMT
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Post by friopi on Jul 14, 2015 15:57:02 GMT
I really really like Rytmeklubben - Girlfriend. Was planning on listening to this mix today while I clean.
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Post by lukas on Jul 14, 2015 17:56:54 GMT
will see henrik next thursday in berlin, he is playing alongside tielsie, ill try to approach him to talk about ART
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Post by ♀ venus ♀ on Jul 14, 2015 23:42:17 GMT
holy shit how did I miss this mix!!!! they even called out aus masterchef, these boys have a very special place in my heart
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Post by awayspa on Jul 15, 2015 16:30:25 GMT
Anybody seen Nina Las Vegas live? I'm catching her tonight in DC, I imagine she'll jam some Rytmeklubben.
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Post by conor on Jul 15, 2015 19:26:41 GMT
JACKdansu played some new Henrik the Artist on his radio show friday, I know the forum doesnt like him for whatever reason but the mix should be on soundcloud sometime very soon. The whole mix is VERY GOOD.
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Post by awayspa on Jul 15, 2015 21:19:59 GMT
JACKdansu played some new Henrik the Artist on his radio show friday, I know the forum doesnt like him for whatever reason but the mix should be on soundcloud sometime very soon. The whole mix is VERY GOOD. lol its funny you say that. Jack seemed to catch on to that sentiment the other day on twitter. But yeah, it was a solid show last week. |
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Post by twigs on Jul 15, 2015 21:58:57 GMT
i dont like him because he talks too goddamn much during his sets
also i hear him and the manicure guys act like tools at live shows
but thats hearsay so w/e
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 22:08:37 GMT
in Simon's defence he is a radio presenter, talking is part of the job. Apart from that i don't really take notice of the other Jack/Manicure guys.
Also RIP shitdog's acc
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