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Post by Dvnots on Aug 6, 2015 17:16:28 GMT
I think Sam Long uses his own voice for most of his production. If you fiddle with the vocals in terms of pitch and deepen the voice, you almost always get the same vocal range (i.e., around a tenor). For a clear example, check out A.G. Cook's edit of BIPP. Otherwise, like in "Hard", Sam cites the vocalist (i.e. GFOTY). I've confirmed this trend for a lot of songs, like Cherry Pop, Bipp, Somebody Like You, and others. It's honestly bloody brilliant how Sam uses his own voice, and I think that this is a really fascinating area of discussion for music (vocal) production. Also, just FYI, Le1f is furious at Vice for this article. I think it's fact-checked validly, but I wouldn't take his sentiments at face value. Cherry Pop was A. G. Cook. It's his song. Bipp features the same singer from Ooh/Elle/Nothing More To Say. I'm sure Someboy Like You is him. There are vocals in Elle? I never heard them. Are they just pitch shifted beyond recognition? The vocals in OOH, Nothing More To Say, and Bipp sound like the same person, though.
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Post by mosss on Aug 6, 2015 18:00:02 GMT
Cherry Pop was A. G. Cook. It's his song. Bipp features the same singer from Ooh/Elle/Nothing More To Say. I'm sure Somebody Like You is him. There are vocals in Elle? I never heard them. Are they just pitch shifted beyond recognition? The vocals in OOH, Nothing More To Say, and Bipp sound like the same person, though. There are vocals in ELLE but they are used more like instruments, pitched shifted and chopped up. You can best hear them around 0:34.
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Post by aphextwink on Aug 6, 2015 18:20:41 GMT
I think Sam Long uses his own voice for most of his production. If you fiddle with the vocals in terms of pitch and deepen the voice, you almost always get the same vocal range (i.e., around a tenor). For a clear example, check out A.G. Cook's edit of BIPP. Otherwise, like in "Hard", Sam cites the vocalist (i.e. GFOTY). I've confirmed this trend for a lot of songs, like Cherry Pop, Bipp, Somebody Like You, and others. It's honestly bloody brilliant how Sam uses his own voice, and I think that this is a really fascinating area of discussion for music (vocal) production. Also, just FYI, Le1f is furious at Vice for this article. I think it's fact-checked validly, but I wouldn't take his sentiments at face value. Cherry Pop was A. G. Cook. It's his song. Bipp features the same singer from Ooh/Elle/Nothing More To Say. I'm sure Someboy Like You is him. do you have a pitch shifted version of Somebody Like You? i'd be interested to hear that
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Post by mosss on Aug 6, 2015 18:31:23 GMT
Cherry Pop was A. G. Cook. It's his song. Bipp features the same singer from Ooh/Elle/Nothing More To Say. I'm sure Somebody Like You is him. do you have a pitch shifted version of Somebody Like You? i'd be interested to hear that I meant to write "I'm not sure Somebody Like You is him," sorry. The singer kind of sounds like Liz but pitch shifted.
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Post by Dvnots on Aug 6, 2015 19:35:44 GMT
There are vocals in Elle? I never heard them. Are they just pitch shifted beyond recognition? The vocals in OOH, Nothing More To Say, and Bipp sound like the same person, though. There are vocals in ELLE but they are used more like instruments, pitched shifted and chopped up. You can best hear them around 0:34. Oh, I never knew those were vocals! Thanks!
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Post by shinhito on Aug 8, 2015 4:29:49 GMT
There are vocals in ELLE but they are used more like instruments, pitched shifted and chopped up. You can best hear them around 0:34. Oh, I never knew those were vocals! Thanks! I don't know if those are vocals in the traditional sense, they sounds a lot like the 'voice/vocal' synthesis method of the Monomachine the VO-6. You can get a lot of sounds like that one that kind of sound like chopped up voices. But they could also be actual recorded vocals.
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Post by mosss on Aug 8, 2015 6:47:42 GMT
Oh, I never knew those were vocals! Thanks! I don't know if those are vocals in the traditional sense, they sounds a lot like the 'voice/vocal' synthesis method of the Monomachine the VO-6. You can get a lot of sounds like that one that kind of sound like chopped up voices. But they could also be actual recorded vocals. The vocals in ELLE definitely sound like the ones in EH and BIPP.
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Post by shinhito on Aug 8, 2015 22:18:35 GMT
I think Sam Long uses his own voice for most of his production. If you fiddle with the vocals in terms of pitch and deepen the voice, you almost always get the same vocal range (i.e., around a tenor). For a clear example, check out A.G. Cook's edit of BIPP. Otherwise, like in "Hard", Sam cites the vocalist (i.e. GFOTY). I've confirmed this trend for a lot of songs, like Cherry Pop, Bipp, Somebody Like You, and others. It's honestly bloody brilliant how Sam uses his own voice, and I think that this is a really fascinating area of discussion for music (vocal) production. Also, just FYI, Le1f is furious at Vice for this article. I think it's fact-checked validly, but I wouldn't take his sentiments at face value. I guess I'm just going to have to disagree with this assessment. Some of the vocals in Lemonade have no pitch shifting at all ("candy boys c-candy boys" for example) and there's something about the inflection and pronunciation that just doesn't sound like Sam's voice. His speaking voice is very low register and in the Sfire 3 song he sings on he has a very affected style of singing in addition to not being a very clear nor does it have the enunciation of the vocalists on all of SOPHIE's Number tracks with an uncredited vocalist. I've also attempted a lot of my own pitch shifting of SOPHIE's tracks and none of them (each processed a semitone down to a whole octave lower) really strike me as "male". But again the main point is we know what Sam's voice sounds like and it doesn't appear to be on any of his own tracks.
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Post by friopi on Aug 9, 2015 3:18:42 GMT
Also, just FYI, Le1f is furious at Vice for this article. I think it's fact-checked validly, but I wouldn't take his sentiments at face value. Do you have a source/more info for this? I read something on Twitter about the original title of the article being pretty bad, but Vice has changed it and I never saw the first title. Was that what Le1f was mad about or was there more?
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Post by Xian on Aug 9, 2015 14:06:33 GMT
Also, just FYI, Le1f is furious at Vice for this article. I think it's fact-checked validly, but I wouldn't take his sentiments at face value. Do you have a source/more info for this? I read something on Twitter about the original title of the article being pretty bad, but Vice has changed it and I never saw the first title. Was that what Le1f was mad about or was there more? Yeah I want the gossip! Love Le1f and can't wait for the SOPHIE collab on his album...
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Post by Ragna Rök on Aug 15, 2015 9:07:48 GMT
Do you have a source/more info for this? I read something on Twitter about the original title of the article being pretty bad, but Vice has changed it and I never saw the first title. Was that what Le1f was mad about or was there more? Yeah I want the gossip! Love Le1f and can't wait for the SOPHIE collab on his album... Le1f tweeted about this fairly assertively (and then engaged in a minor beef with Mitchell Sunderland (criticizing @matte_mag who Mitchell describes as a BFF), who has a far from perfect history of engaging with queer artists of color, like Azealia Banks), but likely deleted them after Mitchell's rebuke and networks of influence in New York. Now, I can't remember the content of the tweets verbatim, but some criticisms included: the girl from Vice asked/needed to stay with Le1f in his hotel room and ordered room service; he said, no white artist would be asked to lick their toes, criticizing @matte_mag; she asked him questions that he did not want to dress and wrote about said questions; he criticized Vice not paying his writers enough, so much that they, essentially, are badly paid and barely paid artists then end up footing the bill (i.e. the "can i stay over" and room service comment); then, was like, when he can't afford to be an artist, he'll get a full-time job. If I recall correctly, he also questioned the role of Mitchell in the recently launched Broadly, the women's section of Vice, as managing editor (which Le1f and others have taken to imply that he is the head editor, but he's actually second-in-line). I tried to find archives of the tweets, but it's harder than I imagined. I think it's really sad, because Mitchell Sunderland's counter-criticisms and position of power in the "laws of cool" within publishing have often been used to silence Black queer artists, and in general it seems to reflect a white fragility where artists of color are expected to apologize for their "unkempt" responses. Like, he blasted Azealia Banks for her supposed homophobia, like she isn't a very queer, bisexual woman of color who isn't going to let a white cis gay boy determine the value or validity of her speech. Anyway, I wish I could help more, maybe I'll spend more time on the archives when I've got more free time. xo
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Post by Xian on Aug 15, 2015 10:21:44 GMT
Yeah I want the gossip! Love Le1f and can't wait for the SOPHIE collab on his album... Le1f tweeted about this fairly assertively (and then engaged in a minor beef with Mitchell Sunderland (criticizing @matte_mag who Mitchell describes as a BFF), who has a far from perfect history of engaging with queer artists of color, like Azealia Banks), but likely deleted them after Mitchell's rebuke and networks of influence in New York. Now, I can't remember the content of the tweets verbatim, but some criticisms included: the girl from Vice asked/needed to stay with Le1f in his hotel room and ordered room service; he said, no white artist would be asked to lick their toes, criticizing @matte_mag; she asked him questions that he did not want to dress and wrote about said questions; he criticized Vice not paying his writers enough, so much that they, essentially, are badly paid and barely paid artists then end up footing the bill (i.e. the "can i stay over" and room service comment); then, was like, when he can't afford to be an artist, he'll get a full-time job. If I recall correctly, he also questioned the role of Mitchell in the recently launched Broadly, the women's section of Vice, as managing editor (which Le1f and others have taken to imply that he is the head editor, but he's actually second-in-line). I tried to find archives of the tweets, but it's harder than I imagined. I think it's really sad, because Mitchell Sunderland's counter-criticisms and position of power in the "laws of cool" within publishing have often been used to silence Black queer artists, and in general it seems to reflect a white fragility where artists of color are expected to apologize for their "unkempt" responses. Like, he blasted Azealia Banks for her supposed homophobia, like she isn't a very queer, bisexual woman of color who isn't going to let a white cis gay boy determine the value or validity of her speech. Anyway, I wish I could help more, maybe I'll spend more time on the archives when I've got more free time. xo Thanks for the reply shame about all of this beef and negativity that seems to surround a lot of good music...
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