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Post by aphextwink on Apr 12, 2016 23:48:29 GMT
boy oh boy i've triggered some people here..... i don't care what he releases and what he doesn't release, consider it the last i'll say on the matter. clearly i "don't get" his "struggle" edit: oh yeah and for the record, i wasn't trying to undermine what he goes through for being black and gay in the industry.... "I wasn't trying to undermine what he goes through" "dude needs to chill out and quit making a mountain out of a molehill, jesus..." But anyway
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 23:51:53 GMT
clearly whatever i say will just make people mad here, so i'll just fuck off.
shame really, i enjoyed it here. ciao.
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Post by -- on Apr 13, 2016 0:14:52 GMT
boy oh boy i've triggered some people here..... i don't care what he releases and what he doesn't release, consider it the last i'll say on the matter. clearly i "don't get" his "struggle" edit: oh yeah and for the record, i wasn't trying to undermine what he goes through for being black and gay in the industry.... "I wasn't trying to undermine what he goes through" "dude needs to chill out and quit making a mountain out of a molehill, jesus..." But anyway
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Post by aphextwink on Apr 13, 2016 0:18:00 GMT
Sorry for being triggered simeun!! :/
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Post by -- on Apr 13, 2016 0:22:37 GMT
Sorry for being triggered simeun!! :/ I'm gagging.
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Post by moneyisapartofme on Apr 13, 2016 0:56:55 GMT
clearly whatever i say will just make people mad here, so i'll just fuck off. shame really, i enjoyed it here. ciao. im not mad just if someone on here says something kinda uneducated I tell them
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Post by s on Apr 13, 2016 1:18:19 GMT
like i said. i wasn't deliberately trying to undermine the fact that he's black or gay and i certainly wasn't trying to make any enemies tonight. all i did was comment on something (which where i'm from would be seen as petty) without taking it all into context and for that i'll reluctantly apologize. but instead of going after me in a public thread, the least you (or anyone else offended by anything i said) could have done could have been to DM me about it and i'm sure we could have have a civil conversation like i always had here.
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Post by ignatz on Apr 13, 2016 3:10:43 GMT
Why are we talking about racism in the industry again? He was tweeting about people not liking his newer/different/less pop stuff (which happened after I posted the original tweet). Like... why even bring it up...
The pettiness I was referring to before wasn't about that either btw
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Post by deathworld on Apr 13, 2016 3:29:07 GMT
Amen to that. Le1f is understandably frustrated by the roadblocks he's up against and I totally understand why he wouldn't release the song. At the same time I'm pretty sad that Sophiebros and other folks would leave his shows early or make him feel unappreciated for all the work he puts into his (incredible) music and live shows. This is definitely a case of broader music industry problems and callous hipster attitudes hurting everyone involved. Let's be more caring towards other people who are fighting for the same good things as us!
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Post by ignatz on Apr 13, 2016 3:40:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 4:43:00 GMT
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LE1F - KOI
Apr 13, 2016 4:49:02 GMT
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Post by aphextwink on Apr 13, 2016 4:49:02 GMT
Why are we talking about racism in the industry again? He was tweeting about people not liking his newer/different/less pop stuff (which happened after I posted the original tweet). Like... why even bring it up... The pettiness I was referring to before wasn't about that either btw i brought up racism in the industry bc a lot of his recent tweets have been about his frustration and it's also just like a recurring theme for a lot of Le1f's work that I think provides important context for why he was deciding to not release body mop
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Post by -- on Apr 13, 2016 5:01:25 GMT
"You should respect it and if you don't understand then don't comment " someone voices an opinion, perhaps incorrect or uninformed, and they get labeled as disrespectful, dumb and told to shut up in a roundabout way. Maybe some irony to be found in how certain people these days (ones striving for positive change in our broken society) are creating such hostile environments. Environments similarly hostile to the one that Le1f finds himself trapped and struggling in? IMHO It is good to take a look in a mirror once in a while. Oops idk if i should be commenting. maybe i don't understand well enough okay and i kindly replied to him and all he had to say was "Ooops i may not completely understand what's going on? my bad" instead of making a shady ass comment then being a drama queen and deleting his account for nothing lmfao
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Post by -- on Apr 13, 2016 5:10:37 GMT
Why are we talking about racism in the industry again? He was tweeting about people not liking his newer/different/less pop stuff (which happened after I posted the original tweet). Like... why even bring it up... The pettiness I was referring to before wasn't about that either btw i brought up racism in the industry bc a lot of his recent tweets have been about his frustration and it's also just like a recurring theme for a lot of Le1f's work that I think provides important context for why he was deciding to not release body mop Before that tweet Le1f was actually talking about how white gays would come to his shows and jam to like his more popular songs tht arent that good and then they leave and he said thank you the the black people that stayed the entire show and danced along to his music. Then he goes into the Sophie thing. but the inly reason why it's even a topic of discussion is that black gay artists dont get the respects and opportunities white artists have. Which is why he says that his community aka the gay community doesnt support him. we can't just say put one tweet and not look at his reasonings for why Body Mop won't be released and also why he almost doesnt even wanna perform Koi anymore. The conversation was going very smoothly until people wanted to be shady and petty about it. I was giving great information for some people who didnt understand why Le1f felt the way he did. And i was being very nice about it like yas lemme explain cause Le1f was throwing hella shade at the gay community on twitter lol and it almost looked like a shade to Sophie so i just explained his whole rant and how he feels.
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Post by -- on Apr 13, 2016 5:29:09 GMT
like i said. i wasn't deliberately trying to undermine the fact that he's black or gay and i certainly wasn't trying to make any enemies tonight. all i did was comment on something (which where i'm from would be seen as petty) without taking it all into context and for that i'll reluctantly apologize. but instead of going after me in a public thread, the least you (or anyone else offended by anything i said) could have done could have been to DM me about it and i'm sure we could have have a civil conversation like i always had here. I mean you got offended that we told you not to say stuff like that and all you had to say was "oops my bad maybe I misread the situation". Like, you were better my dramatic be deleting your account. You turned it into an argument and I was simply informing and I was super kind about (which I'm never ever ever ever ever kind about). Just stop. Drop. And roooooooollllll.
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