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Post by ignatz on Feb 15, 2016 20:13:19 GMT
I don't like it at all  Kanye is an amazing and hilarious celebrity figure but his musical output has gotten really poor. At least his producers are putting in effort. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 20:22:53 GMT
I don't like it at all Kanye is an amazing and hilarious celebrity figure but his musical output has gotten really poor. At least his producers are putting in effort. He's got too much of himself in his head (which I think is awesome but I can see why others wouldn't). |
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Post by oc on Feb 15, 2016 21:21:17 GMT
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Post by -- on Feb 15, 2016 21:43:26 GMT
Anyone check out The Life of Pablo yet? I just listened for the first time, my initial impression is that it's mostly pretty okay and occasionally incredible. The production is predictably on point, and super weird - some of these tracks are even more experimental and boundary-pushing than Yeezus. But it's very fragmented - it feels more like a mixtape with really high production value than an album. Maybe that was intentional, given the way the album was marketed and released. But it's probably not something I will frequently listen to end-to-end, like I would with a more cohesive album. Standout tracks for me are Ultralight Beam and Fade (the opener and closer... lol). I like most of the previously released tracks as well, especially No More Parties In LA. Oh, and this new version of Facts is infinitely better than the one on soundcloud. It's an okay album. It feels like one of his older albums from the early 2000's. He definitely is starting to understand who he is now. Before it was very clear that he was lost but i think him being a father and such kinda put a perspective on him. But he still hates women so it's kinda like bittersweet. I think his next album will probably 100% fire flames.But this is kinda just an album to show his growth and change. I definitely feel like rappers are changing what a "mixtape" is. All they are doing is recording an album and calling it a mixtape. Real legit mixtapes have rappers on other people's beats as a way to show their skills. But now a mixtape transformed into just showcasing a bunch of songs that are sorta leftover or just a way to show that they are still here. |
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Post by unizen on Feb 16, 2016 10:40:16 GMT
Taylor Swift indirectly responded to Kanye's "Famous" lines in her Grammy acceptance speech:
I can't help but feel like this was a planned publicity stunt like a lot of things in Kanye's career. That song's lyrics are so comically shitty I find it hard to believe they could have been written sincerely. That's not to say he doesn't have misogynistic tendencies, but I don't think he'd be so blatantly disrespectful to such a talented artist, and someone who he has called a friend.
Both the VMA incident and this one have made both of them more famous. But this one started a conversation and allowed Taylor to send a good message so I'd totally respect it as an artistic statement if they were both in on it.
Of course it's totally possible that I'm just being an apologist and Kanye has really gone off the deep end here. Dude does seem a bit manic at the moment.. I hope his mental health is okay, he has a family now.
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Post by -- on Feb 16, 2016 15:34:10 GMT
Taylor Swift indirectly responded to Kanye's "Famous" lines in her Grammy acceptance speech: I can't help but feel like this was a planned publicity stunt like a lot of things in Kanye's career. That song's lyrics are so comically shitty I find it hard to believe they could have been written sincerely. That's not to say he doesn't have misogynistic tendencies, but I don't think he'd be so blatantly disrespectful to such a talented artist, and someone who he has called a friend. Both the VMA incident and this one have made both of them more famous. But this one started a conversation and allowed Taylor to send a good message so I'd totally respect it as an artistic statement if they were both in on it. Of course it's totally possible that I'm just being an apologist and Kanye has really gone off the deep end here. Dude does seem a bit manic at the moment.. I hope his mental health is okay, he has a family now. Honestly she read him for filth. Clearly Nicki has been giving her lessons. I definitely think that it's a stunt. She tries to act so feminist but she isn't really that much of one tbqh. Kanye hates women so of course anything misogynistthat he does is how he really feels. The Grammys itself was and is trash. |
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Post by -- on Feb 16, 2016 15:45:38 GMT
This performance really transcended last night. Like. This is amazing. I wish I could find a link that was more clear but Kendrick spoke to his people last night. First Beyoncé and Now him. Im loving it.
on a side note I'm still bitter that he said "Iggy Azalea is a gift from God" like ew
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Post by arlo on Feb 17, 2016 8:25:40 GMT
unizen -- yea I've seen so many thinkpieces about that line which is so clearly planned and clearly a joke (i mean kanye still has a modicum of self awareness, of course he knows he didn't make her famous). When there's so many legitimately troubling lines on the album to put your focus on that one seems like you're really barking up the wrong tree. Anyways I feel like the album is really good. It's def not a coherent statement like 808s/MBDTF/Yeezus, but it is 18 back to back really good songs. I'd say it's a really solid B+. It has at least one Kanye mode everyone likes in it. I get what he's saying when he says it's his "gospel album" and if there wasn't so much (mostly self-induced) pressure around him releasing the album he could have really driven that concept home and made an amazing album. I think it's really cool he got DJ Dodger Stadium to work on a good portion of the album. Their sampling style is clearly Kanye-influenced and they're probably the only group doing good new interesting things in house right now. The two albums (one that came out last month) they've released so far are really good. They've semi-formally changed their name to DJDS but they keep referring to themselves as DJ Dodger Stadium as well which is probably not the best tactic if you're trying to get new fans. Not to mention there's another LA-based artist named DJDS that does really generic EDM. Here's some of their stuff if you don't know 'em: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W65VNx0gr40www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7WWTEfk66owww.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi11LVYL8g4during the whole Hotline Bling remix craze they remixed the song that Hotline Bling sampled instead and I think that's a cool/novel way to do things: soundcloud.com/bodyhigh/timmy-thomas-djds-edit Also Kanye is clearly in the thralls of a mental breakdown and/or drug addiction and I sincerely hope he gets help soon. Some of his twitter rants are funny but there's def. something unsettling lying underneath.
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Post by pixel on Feb 18, 2016 21:16:56 GMT
I really, really, really loved Kanye's new album. I think it's one of, if not, his best. As for the thing with Taylor Swift, I have this weird thing pitted against her. She has a really good PR team, I think, and I believe this could've been a carefully balanced scheme on her part. I bet she "made-up" with Kanye at the AMA's, was warned about the line in Kanye's song, but pretended she didn't know about it so she could get her revenge. A bit of a long shot but, I mean, she seems like the kind of person to do it. She plays sweet in the media and therefore, no one feels they have the right to accuse someone as innocent as her.
Taylor makes acceptable music, but her personality makes her hard to like, for me anyway. She portrays this really progressive, revolutionary feminist when in reality, all she does is dance on stage. Meanwhile, there are ACTUAL female artists who ARE underrated and actually DON'T get credit for their work when they deserve it. Taylor DOES. She doesn't have a lot to complain about as far as credit goes, she only has to worry about media criticizing her outfits and private life (which sucks, but that's a different point.) |
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Post by -- on Feb 19, 2016 8:18:09 GMT
I really, really, really loved Kanye's new album. I think it's one of, if not, his best. As for the thing with Taylor Swift, I have this weird thing pitted against her. She has a really good PR team, I think, and I believe this could've been a carefully balanced scheme on her part. I bet she "made-up" with Kanye at the AMA's, was warned about the line in Kanye's song, but pretended she didn't know about it so she could get her revenge. A bit of a long shot but, I mean, she seems like the kind of person to do it. She plays sweet in the media and therefore, no one feels they have the right to accuse someone as innocent as her.
Taylor makes acceptable music, but her personality makes her hard to like, for me anyway. She portrays this really progressive, revolutionary feminist when in reality, all she does is dance on stage. Meanwhile, there are ACTUAL female artists who ARE underrated and actually DON'T get credit for their work when they deserve it. Taylor DOES. She doesn't have a lot to complain about as far as credit goes, she only has to worry about media criticizing her outfits and private life (which sucks, but that's a different point.) Yes! I always wonder how her and Selena Gomez are friends. Selena makes really good music and Taylor has good production but no direction. She would be good if she found her direction. She doesn't know herself and you can hear it in the music and how fast she switched. She's nothing close to a feminist. Tbqh. She's fake. She tries to pull off this "American Sweetheart" look but it fails. |
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Post by pixel on Feb 19, 2016 23:12:47 GMT
I really, really, really loved Kanye's new album. I think it's one of, if not, his best. As for the thing with Taylor Swift, I have this weird thing pitted against her. She has a really good PR team, I think, and I believe this could've been a carefully balanced scheme on her part. I bet she "made-up" with Kanye at the AMA's, was warned about the line in Kanye's song, but pretended she didn't know about it so she could get her revenge. A bit of a long shot but, I mean, she seems like the kind of person to do it. She plays sweet in the media and therefore, no one feels they have the right to accuse someone as innocent as her.
Taylor makes acceptable music, but her personality makes her hard to like, for me anyway. She portrays this really progressive, revolutionary feminist when in reality, all she does is dance on stage. Meanwhile, there are ACTUAL female artists who ARE underrated and actually DON'T get credit for their work when they deserve it. Taylor DOES. She doesn't have a lot to complain about as far as credit goes, she only has to worry about media criticizing her outfits and private life (which sucks, but that's a different point.) Yes! I always wonder how her and Selena Gomez are friends. Selena makes really good music and Taylor has good production but no direction. She would be good if she found her direction. She doesn't know herself and you can hear it in the music and how fast she switched. She's nothing close to a feminist. Tbqh. She's fake. She tries to pull off this "American Sweetheart" look but it fails. Every song on that Selena Gomez album is bomb as fuck, not gonna lie. She's a really great artist, even if she may not write her songs like Taylor (I'm pretty sure Taylor writes most of her songs, not positive). But maybe that's the beauty behind it, Selena doesn't try as hard to be super impressive, it comes naturally (lol no pun intended). Not saying writing your songs is bad, as it's obviously not, but idk, Taylor's lyrical subjects are boring me, and it's not even the crying-over-a-breakup phase anymore. She seems like the "American Sweetheart" that is secretly spiteful behind your back. Her presence is elitist, pretentious, and irritating yet she tries hard to relate to her fans, who are usually none of those things. "Look guys, I'm just like you! I have bad days, like to have fun, and like to talk about boys!!" Who is this demographic you may ask? Teenage girls. Not being sexist or ageist, but it's a TRUE statistic -- most of her fans are teenage girls.
It's this kind of false relationship building between artists and their fans that is ultimately detrimental to the career. Your fans should have a connection with you because they relate to the content you put out in the first place, not because you're trying hard to put out content that you think they'll relate to. That's the whole point of a fanbase. Your music (or art, or writing, whatever) speaks to them, instead of them speaking to you whilst you create your art around their demands. Following the former example, it's an authentic creator-follower bond. There is no fabricated material created for the sole purpose of gaining or maintaining celebrity status.
^That was kind of deep for the subject but it's true -- artists are so desperate to have more, more, more fans that they will suppress their identity and wear a mask that appeals to a broader audience. I really don't care for country music, but I believe her artistic capabilities would shine through more if she wasn't a pop artist.
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Post by flaneur on Feb 19, 2016 23:50:49 GMT
How does everyone feel about the track Azealia Banks put out today? As, uh... controversial as she is on social media, I can't deny that she's one of the most talented rappers regardless of gender in the game right now and I think this is yet another fantastic track from her. soundcloud.com/azealia-banks/1800bigbigbeat (also the site isn't letting me embed soundcloud links for some reason?) |
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Post by unizen on Feb 19, 2016 23:57:13 GMT
(also the site isn't letting me embed soundcloud links for some reason?) It only works if you're in BBCode, not preview mode. Dunno why. |
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Post by arlo on Feb 20, 2016 5:39:06 GMT
I am quite enjoying the new Animal Collective album. Outside of the singles I think Bagels In Kiev and Vertical are my favorite tracks, but I still need to listen to it a bit more.
Also, Re: the whole Taylor Swift thing, I think Ed Droste's purported experiences with her are telling. Apparently she is very controlling of her friend group and has restricted them from hanging out with other people. After Ed Droste went on a twitter rant about her, Haim (who were their mutual friends) completely cut off all ties with Droste. Here's hoping the new Grizzly Bear album has some TSwift diss tracks.
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Post by dr on Feb 20, 2016 6:22:18 GMT
How does everyone feel about the track Azealia Banks put out today? As, uh... controversial as she is on social media, I can't deny that she's one of the most talented rappers regardless of gender in the game right now and I think this is yet another fantastic track from her. soundcloud.com/azealia-banks/1800bigbigbeat (also the site isn't letting me embed soundcloud links for some reason?) love her music. the single is good but nothing out of the ordinary for her, she loves to rap over house and most of this flow she's used before. still, always down to hear new stuff from her, hope she can follow up her amazing last release with something as good if not better |
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