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Post by Dvnots on Feb 21, 2016 22:28:33 GMT
I feel exactly the opposite about 1989 and Revival. Revival was just mediocre. 1989 was a great pop album. I can't argue with your analysis of them as people, because I don't know enough about their personalities, but Revival was a disposable album with maybe 3 good songs on it. Not much of the album actually feels genuine. The songs that are supposed to be fun sound robotic, and the songs that are supposed to be emotional sound fake. Of course there are a few exceptions, though, and this is just my opinion. I think 1989 coulda been a great pop album if Taylor didn't sing the songs. I feel like the songs coulda fit other singers way than Taylor. Revival I think was kinda a test album for Selena. This was her first time writing for real and also not using much autotune. Whereas her other albums, all the songs were hand picked and full of autotune. This isn't her best work but I thought it better than 1989. I felt 1989 was just a collection of random pop songs. It seems so fake to me. And the production is almost too good that the vocals kinda don't sit right on the tracks. I find that Selena seems to do a trial and error with her music. Like what songs work and don't until she finds the right fit. Selena is sorta like the let's go out and drink whereas Taylor is like the let's stay home and play cards. That's how I see it. I think if Taylor found a way to mix country with pop *cough cough avicii* her music might just sound better. I think she has yet to produce a good body of work. Same with Selena, Selena seems to dabble in electronic music and rnb music. I think they both need to work with different group of producers. Tbh, I'm the type of person that would rather stay home and play cards. I think it's probably just a matter of taste. I can see why people dislike the Taylor album and why people like the Selena album. Revival just doesn't really work for me, and 1989 clicked into place with me. I do agree about 1989 not feeling like a cohesive album though. It does feel like a collection of random pop songs. I just thought the random pop songs were really good. |
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Post by -- on Feb 27, 2016 7:53:40 GMT
Is it me or has pop music gotten really boring?? Like I noticed in like 2013 cause I started paying attention to better music that wasn't mainstream and got involved with the EDM world more than I was before. But like Azealia tweeted the mainstream is boring and honestly I have to agree. Like a lot of these albums are just albums. Like they are boring and even The Pink Print was boring even though I'm a hardcore barb but like I was low key bored af. And I feel like it's just America. But idk. Thoughts??
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Post by ¬ on Feb 27, 2016 13:17:55 GMT
Is it me or has pop music gotten really boring?? Like I noticed in like 2013 cause I started paying attention to better music that wasn't mainstream and got involved with the EDM world more than I was before. But like Azealia tweeted the mainstream is boring and honestly I have to agree. Like a lot of these albums are just albums. Like they are boring and even The Pink Print was boring even though I'm a hardcore barb but like I was low key bored af. And I feel like it's just America. But idk. Thoughts?? Yeah, I've felt this too in the UK - every time Radio 1 is on it's rare that there's a song I like. I think there's value placed on 'maturity" in pop music now, which just makes everything feel more cynical. There's so many boring "folksy" singers and indistinct alt r&b up-and-comers. I always thought it was our terrible taste, considering we seem to think Ed fucking Sheeran is a heartthrob Basically, free Ke$ha and let her save music again |
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Post by -- on Feb 27, 2016 21:55:07 GMT
Is it me or has pop music gotten really boring?? Like I noticed in like 2013 cause I started paying attention to better music that wasn't mainstream and got involved with the EDM world more than I was before. But like Azealia tweeted the mainstream is boring and honestly I have to agree. Like a lot of these albums are just albums. Like they are boring and even The Pink Print was boring even though I'm a hardcore barb but like I was low key bored af. And I feel like it's just America. But idk. Thoughts?? Yeah, I've felt this too in the UK - every time Radio 1 is on it's rare that there's a song I like. I think there's value placed on 'maturity" in pop music now, which just makes everything feel more cynical. There's so many boring "folksy" singers and indistinct alt r&b up-and-comers. I always thought it was our terrible taste, considering we seem to think Ed fucking Sheeran is a heartthrob Basically, free Ke$ha and let her save music again I see exactly what you mean by the value of maturity. I think everyone wants that critically acclaimed album and usually those albums happen to be the more broken down and simpler albums. The mainstream has turned into r&B and alt r&b with some electronic hits here and there. Nothing special. I think its cause 2009 - 2012 were highs for music. The mainstream was really at an all time high because we had hit after hit after hit. And thats when it was One Direction, The Wanted, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, Kesha, Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Usher, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi, J.Lo, etc, they were all over the place with hits and the mainstream was just thriving. In all of it's genres. Now I feel like Hip Hop and R&B kinda took over that but the stuff that's out by mainstream hiphop/rnb artists arent that good anyways. idk, i just seem really bored witht he mainstream. Underground is always lit but like the mainstream is boring. A lot of the up and coming artists are jut cheaper quality versions of artists that were just popping two years ago. And i think it has to do with the crew of original pop stars from 2008, have grown up and don't make music like they did because they've grown. I think we need a whole new generation of pop stars but i feel like they'll just be reboots of the ones before and it wont sound as good. |
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Post by Dvnots on Feb 27, 2016 22:28:01 GMT
Yeah, I've felt this too in the UK - every time Radio 1 is on it's rare that there's a song I like. I think there's value placed on 'maturity" in pop music now, which just makes everything feel more cynical. There's so many boring "folksy" singers and indistinct alt r&b up-and-comers. I always thought it was our terrible taste, considering we seem to think Ed fucking Sheeran is a heartthrob Basically, free Ke$ha and let her save music again I see exactly what you mean by the value of maturity. I think everyone wants that critically acclaimed album and usually those albums happen to be the more broken down and simpler albums. The mainstream has turned into r&B and alt r&b with some electronic hits here and there. Nothing special. I think its cause 2009 - 2012 were highs for music. The mainstream was really at an all time high because we had hit after hit after hit. And thats when it was One Direction, The Wanted, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, Kesha, Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Usher, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi, J.Lo, etc, they were all over the place with hits and the mainstream was just thriving. In all of it's genres. Now I feel like Hip Hop and R&B kinda took over that but the stuff that's out by mainstream hiphop/rnb artists arent that good anyways. idk, i just seem really bored witht he mainstream. Underground is always lit but like the mainstream is boring. A lot of the up and coming artists are jut cheaper quality versions of artists that were just popping two years ago. And i think it has to do with the crew of original pop stars from 2008, have grown up and don't make music like they did because they've grown. I think we need a whole new generation of pop stars but i feel like they'll just be reboots of the ones before and it wont sound as good. Tbh I think everything sounds better looking back on it, and we're just kinda remembering the highlights of the 2008-2012 era. The songs that are forgettable are forgotten. Like when you look back at 2006 and you remember Gwen and Fergie and Cassie while forgetting Teddy Geiger (who recently co-wrote the godawful Shawn Mendes song "Stitches" btw). |
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Post by -- on Feb 28, 2016 2:02:59 GMT
I see exactly what you mean by the value of maturity. I think everyone wants that critically acclaimed album and usually those albums happen to be the more broken down and simpler albums. The mainstream has turned into r&B and alt r&b with some electronic hits here and there. Nothing special. I think its cause 2009 - 2012 were highs for music. The mainstream was really at an all time high because we had hit after hit after hit. And thats when it was One Direction, The Wanted, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, Kesha, Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Usher, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi, J.Lo, etc, they were all over the place with hits and the mainstream was just thriving. In all of it's genres. Now I feel like Hip Hop and R&B kinda took over that but the stuff that's out by mainstream hiphop/rnb artists arent that good anyways. idk, i just seem really bored witht he mainstream. Underground is always lit but like the mainstream is boring. A lot of the up and coming artists are jut cheaper quality versions of artists that were just popping two years ago. And i think it has to do with the crew of original pop stars from 2008, have grown up and don't make music like they did because they've grown. I think we need a whole new generation of pop stars but i feel like they'll just be reboots of the ones before and it wont sound as good. Tbh I think everything sounds better looking back on it, and we're just kinda remembering the highlights of the 2008-2012 era. The songs that are forgettable are forgotten. Like when you look back at 2006 and you remember Gwen and Fergie and Cassie while forgetting Teddy Geiger (who recently co-wrote the godawful Shawn Mendes song "Stitches" btw). Honestly everything does sound better when looking back on it. But like I haven't looked back at any songs from 2014 or 2015 cause they are still played on the radio. It's like they never left. And even looking back at some of the songs, they are really ugly. Like, idk Teddy Geiger and since he wrote that horrible song Stitches it makes me question his music lol. I think that there's all this music available to us and we notice that there is better music that isn't the mainstream especially with all these places we can find new music. So now, we're bored with mainstream artists but can still like some of their mediocre music. Someone is gonna come in the scene and spice shit up though. Just randomly. Before 2008, it was kinda slow and then it really picked tf up big time. 2000-2006 was really strong then it slowed down just a little in 2007 but was still a good year in music. 2008 really just took off. 2013 was a dull ass year in music. Like really dull. The only highlight of 2013 is Diamonds by Rihanna and maybe ARTPOP. 2014 was dry af and only songs I remember that didn't come out towards the end of the year is Anaconda and maybe GUY by Gaga but that's kinda a 2013 thing. 2015 went by so fast. I was mainly focused on the underground by then cause the mainstream kinda died of lack of good music. I did enjoy the releases at the end of 2015 like Revival, Purpose, and whatever came out. But I've been so bored I've started listening to Sam Hunt, James Blake, Lacuna Coil and a bunch of Hip Hop and all this weird music i thought I'd never like. |
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Post by Dvnots on Feb 28, 2016 2:27:29 GMT
Tbh I think everything sounds better looking back on it, and we're just kinda remembering the highlights of the 2008-2012 era. The songs that are forgettable are forgotten. Like when you look back at 2006 and you remember Gwen and Fergie and Cassie while forgetting Teddy Geiger (who recently co-wrote the godawful Shawn Mendes song "Stitches" btw). Honestly everything does sound better when looking back on it. But like I haven't looked back at any songs from 2014 or 2015 cause they are still played on the radio. It's like they never left. And even looking back at some of the songs, they are really ugly. Like, idk Teddy Geiger and since he wrote that horrible song Stitches it makes me question his music lol. I think that there's all this music available to us and we notice that there is better music that isn't the mainstream especially with all these places we can find new music. So now, we're bored with mainstream artists but can still like some of their mediocre music. Someone is gonna come in the scene and spice shit up though. Just randomly. Before 2008, it was kinda slow and then it really picked tf up big time. 2000-2006 was really strong then it slowed down just a little in 2007 but was still a good year in music. 2008 really just took off. 2013 was a dull ass year in music. Like really dull. The only highlight of 2013 is Diamonds by Rihanna and maybe ARTPOP. 2014 was dry af and only songs I remember that didn't come out towards the end of the year is Anaconda and maybe GUY by Gaga but that's kinda a 2013 thing. 2015 went by so fast. I was mainly focused on the underground by then cause the mainstream kinda died of lack of good music. I did enjoy the releases at the end of 2015 like Revival, Purpose, and whatever came out. But I've been so bored I've started listening to Sam Hunt, James Blake, Lacuna Coil and a bunch of Hip Hop and all this weird music i thought I'd never like. When I was younger, I used to buy most of the Now That's What I Call Music cds, and I have found that they're a pretty accurate sample of what was popular at the time of release. Or there's a list of top 20 hits for every year on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_in_American_music#Top_hits_on_recordJust replace the year with whatever you want. It's interesting to go through and pick the songs that you like, because you stumble across so many shitty songs that you've just forgotten about. |
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Post by -- on Feb 29, 2016 4:33:55 GMT
Honestly everything does sound better when looking back on it. But like I haven't looked back at any songs from 2014 or 2015 cause they are still played on the radio. It's like they never left. And even looking back at some of the songs, they are really ugly. Like, idk Teddy Geiger and since he wrote that horrible song Stitches it makes me question his music lol. I think that there's all this music available to us and we notice that there is better music that isn't the mainstream especially with all these places we can find new music. So now, we're bored with mainstream artists but can still like some of their mediocre music. Someone is gonna come in the scene and spice shit up though. Just randomly. Before 2008, it was kinda slow and then it really picked tf up big time. 2000-2006 was really strong then it slowed down just a little in 2007 but was still a good year in music. 2008 really just took off. 2013 was a dull ass year in music. Like really dull. The only highlight of 2013 is Diamonds by Rihanna and maybe ARTPOP. 2014 was dry af and only songs I remember that didn't come out towards the end of the year is Anaconda and maybe GUY by Gaga but that's kinda a 2013 thing. 2015 went by so fast. I was mainly focused on the underground by then cause the mainstream kinda died of lack of good music. I did enjoy the releases at the end of 2015 like Revival, Purpose, and whatever came out. But I've been so bored I've started listening to Sam Hunt, James Blake, Lacuna Coil and a bunch of Hip Hop and all this weird music i thought I'd never like. When I was younger, I used to buy most of the Now That's What I Call Music cds, and I have found that they're a pretty accurate sample of what was popular at the time of release. Or there's a list of top 20 hits for every year on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_in_American_music#Top_hits_on_recordJust replace the year with whatever you want. It's interesting to go through and pick the songs that you like, because you stumble across so many shitty songs that you've just forgotten about. omg this is so interesting. validates 2014 was a bad year for music. |
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Post by arlo on Mar 1, 2016 3:29:57 GMT
Idk if you guys are fans of Neil Cicierega on here, but you should be. His sense of humor has a lot of overlap with PC's. The amount of internet culture he's responsible for is ridiculous. He created Animutation, Potter Puppet Pals, Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, Brodyquest, Mouth Sounds/Silence, and a lot more. He makes music under Lemon Demon and just released his first album in a pretty long time. If you dig nerdy bedroom indie pop you should be into it! Tbh some of his older material is a little bit embarrassing to listen to now (he was like 17 when he made a lot of it) but this album is really solid. lemondemon.bandcamp.com/album/spirit-phone |
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Post by -- on Mar 2, 2016 6:12:27 GMT
Azealia is really petty for her new song buut its also such a sad song yet such a fucking bop. She used the same sample that Iggy Azalea used for her song "My World". Iggy was still trying to bring up Azealia in a magazine so now Azealia decided to be petty and release this song. soundcloud.com/confusedadmirers/used-to-being-alone-azealia-banks(the soundcloud thingy isnt working.) i decided to look up the sample and its Tony Igy & Vicetone - Astronomia. I'm guessing some of you know this song. If Azealia keeps bringing music like this to the table, I'll be good. |
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Post by arlo on Mar 2, 2016 8:35:17 GMT
So, exciting news for Teklife/Footwork fans and Oneohtrix Point Never fans (which seems to be most of us lol), apparently OPN had a pretty big hand in making DJ Earl's new album. Also really looking forward to the DJ Rashad compilation Teklife is gonna put out. wineandbowties.com/music/dj-earl-is-on-his-glo-up/ |
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Post by lost in the file system on Mar 4, 2016 23:22:15 GMT
Yeah I am insanely excited for the OPN and DJ Earl album. The Rihanna album wasn't great for me but I do like Work and James Joint. The Kanye album is fine, its cool that he samples Arthur Russell and I like Real Friends but it's not like I'm going to listen to it a bunch. Still haven't listened to AnCo but I didn't like the single at all.
That Twenty One Pilots single is the worst thing on the radio right now and it's like #3 on billboard
However I still have faith in 2016... I think the Bieber album and Rihanna - Work being so successful are good signs for the mainstream
Also Ed Sheeran is a great artist
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Post by unizen on Mar 5, 2016 8:48:56 GMT
New Kendrick Lamar! It's a compilation of unmastered demos, but it sounds great. Kendrick is easily my favorite rapper at the moment.
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Post by pixel on Mar 5, 2016 17:53:36 GMT
Yeah, I've felt this too in the UK - every time Radio 1 is on it's rare that there's a song I like. I think there's value placed on 'maturity" in pop music now, which just makes everything feel more cynical. There's so many boring "folksy" singers and indistinct alt r&b up-and-comers. I always thought it was our terrible taste, considering we seem to think Ed fucking Sheeran is a heartthrob Basically, free Ke$ha and let her save music again I see exactly what you mean by the value of maturity. I think everyone wants that critically acclaimed album and usually those albums happen to be the more broken down and simpler albums. The mainstream has turned into r&B and alt r&b with some electronic hits here and there. Nothing special. I think its cause 2009 - 2012 were highs for music. The mainstream was really at an all time high because we had hit after hit after hit. And thats when it was One Direction, The Wanted, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, Kesha, Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Usher, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi, J.Lo, etc, they were all over the place with hits and the mainstream was just thriving. In all of it's genres. Now I feel like Hip Hop and R&B kinda took over that but the stuff that's out by mainstream hiphop/rnb artists arent that good anyways. idk, i just seem really bored witht he mainstream. Underground is always lit but like the mainstream is boring. A lot of the up and coming artists are jut cheaper quality versions of artists that were just popping two years ago. And i think it has to do with the crew of original pop stars from 2008, have grown up and don't make music like they did because they've grown. I think we need a whole new generation of pop stars but i feel like they'll just be reboots of the ones before and it wont sound as good. I think what's happening is that popstars don't exist anymore - only one hit wonders. All new pop music is created by these gone-with-the-wind faces that will never make it past their first EP, let alone album. Look at Carly Rae Jepsen - she was/is a great artist but unfortunately, "Call Me Maybe" was just too big of a hit, and everyone got sick of it, and no one wanted to ever hear her voice again. I agree, 2009-2012 was a prime time for pop music. Now, R&B and hip-hop are overwriting the genre. There's nothing wrong with R&B and hip-hop except for the fact that pop music is losing it's place. Hip-hop can still be "pop" music if it's popular, but what is pop music if it's not popular? What do we call it? It's not like there's really an underground scene or even a name for pop-sounding music (excluding PC music because it's somewhat experimental). |
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Post by -- on Mar 5, 2016 20:38:13 GMT
I see exactly what you mean by the value of maturity. I think everyone wants that critically acclaimed album and usually those albums happen to be the more broken down and simpler albums. The mainstream has turned into r&B and alt r&b with some electronic hits here and there. Nothing special. I think its cause 2009 - 2012 were highs for music. The mainstream was really at an all time high because we had hit after hit after hit. And thats when it was One Direction, The Wanted, Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, Kesha, Gaga, Katy, Nicki, Usher, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi, J.Lo, etc, they were all over the place with hits and the mainstream was just thriving. In all of it's genres. Now I feel like Hip Hop and R&B kinda took over that but the stuff that's out by mainstream hiphop/rnb artists arent that good anyways. idk, i just seem really bored witht he mainstream. Underground is always lit but like the mainstream is boring. A lot of the up and coming artists are jut cheaper quality versions of artists that were just popping two years ago. And i think it has to do with the crew of original pop stars from 2008, have grown up and don't make music like they did because they've grown. I think we need a whole new generation of pop stars but i feel like they'll just be reboots of the ones before and it wont sound as good. I think what's happening is that popstars don't exist anymore - only one hit wonders. All new pop music is created by these gone-with-the-wind faces that will never make it past their first EP, let alone album. Look at Carly Rae Jepsen - she was/is a great artist but unfortunately, "Call Me Maybe" was just too big of a hit, and everyone got sick of it, and no one wanted to ever hear her voice again. I agree, 2009-2012 was a prime time for pop music. Now, R&B and hip-hop are overwriting the genre. There's nothing wrong with R&B and hip-hop except for the fact that pop music is losing it's place. Hip-hop can still be "pop" music if it's popular, but what is pop music if it's not popular? What do we call it? It's not like there's really an underground scene or even a name for pop-sounding music (excluding PC music because it's somewhat experimental). I see what you're saying. its like what do we call underground music that sounds like "pop" cause pop is just anything popular. At the same time I think that pop has become its one separate genre. Like we know a pop song separate from a non-pop song even by the same artist. Pop is kinda like just the formula of a song. The RnB/HipHop inspired tracks are just the usual corny rap/rnb pop songs. It just has the formula of a corny pop song. But I guess the quality is very low compared to the quality of a few years ago. Now we are in kinda that drought where music is only just a few good artists that have already been killing it. The whole industry is very interesting. |
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